Chirlane McCray is probably the most interesting first lady in the country. She’s married to New York City Mayor Bill deBlasio and they have two children Dante and Chiara. There are good reasons to stay away from interviewing politicians. They tend to talk in sound bites or trap you in their talking points. But McCray is actually willing to look you in the eye and have a conversation. Listen to what McCray told me about what it was like to be the only black student in her high school, how she fell in love with her husband and what you have to do to hang on to a private life in the glare of the public spotlight.